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  Latest Watchtower.Org Article-AIDS-how will the battle be won?

  by IronGland in

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  anyone care to guess how it will be won?

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  Black Sheep

  First, asleif_dufansdottir, note that the article does not go into the medications that the couple took and the known side effects of those medications and how those known side effects relate to the symptoms they experienced.

  Secondly, I disagree that people should be tested for HIV before embarking on a sexual relationship. Testing for everything else is very sensible, but HIV???

  I suggest that anyone considering an HIV test consider all of the evidence for both sides of the debate before putting themselves at risk of shunning, and pressure from friends, family, GPs etc. to submit to treatment protocols that use some very nasty chemicals.

  The Borg, of course, loves this stuff, which should, in itself, create an element of suspicion in their Apostates.

  Be suspicious.

  This is from http://www.viramune.com/ who are currently updating their website (I wonder why???)

  Boehringer Ingelheim Pharmaceuticals, Inc. 2001,

  Viramune (nevirapine)

  WARNING

  "Severe, life-threatening, and in some cases fatal hepatotoxicity, including fulminant and cholestatic hepatitis, hepatic necrosis and hepatic failure, has been reported in patients treated with VIRAMUNE ????. In some cases, patients presented with non- specific prodromal signs or symptoms of hepatitis and progressed to hepatic failure. Some events occurred after short-term exposure to VIRAMUNE. Patients with signs or symptoms of hepatitis must seek medical evaluation immediately and should be advised to discontinue VIRAMUNE. (See WARNINGS)

  "Severe, life-threatening skin reactions, including fatal cases, have occurred in patients treated with VIRAMUNE. These have included cases of Stevens-Johnson syndrome, toxic epidermal necrolysis, and hypersensitivity reactions characterized by rash, constitutional findings, and organ dysfunction. Patients developing signs or symptoms of severe skin reactions or hypersensitivity reactions must discontinue VIRAMUNE as soon as possible. (See WARNINGS)

  "The first 12 weeks of therapy with VIRAMUNE are a critical period during which it is essential that patients be monitored intensively to detect potentially life-threatening hepatotoxicity or skin reactions. VIRAMUNE should not be restarted following severe hepatic, skin or hypersensitivity reactions. In addition, the 14-day lead-in period with VIRAMUNE 200 mg daily dosing must be strictly followed. (See WARNINGS)"
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  Latest Watchtower.Org Article-AIDS-how will the battle be won?

  by IronGland in

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  Black Sheep

  There are a few parallels between the WBS and AIDS that some of you may not have noticed.

  Both the WBS and the AIDS Establishment have their Apostates and they are shunned. e.g. http://www.virusmyth.net/

  The 'discoverer' of HIV, Robert Gallo, fraudulently claimed that he had isolated the HIV virus when he had used a genetic twin of a virus sent to him by Luc Montagnier. http://ethics.ucsd.edu/courses/survival/resources/misconduct.htm Russell sold Miracle Wheat and Armageddon etc.

  WBS theology and AIDS are both unproven theories.

  WHAT???? AIDS is unproven???? Believe it or not, the standard, (Koch's Postulate) previously required to prove the link of an organism to a disease has not been met by HIV/AIDS. You will find 'experts' that claim that Koch's Postulate has been met, but there is a reward on offer for anyone to prove it and these self proclaimed experts have not claimed it yet.

  Both promise an Apocalypse and offer us hope if we have faith in them and put enough money in their begging bowls, and both use fear of death to get compliance.

  Both have theories that contradict known and provable facts. AIDS in Africa is a good example. I don't know how many of you read Rian Milan's article in the Nov 22 2001 Rolling Stone, Aids in Africa, In Search of the Truth, repeated at, http://www.aliveandwell.org/index.php?page=rollingstone but I found it impressive. Here was someone setting out to slay Mbeki over his reluctance to provide the latest drugs for his people and every rock he turned over had another nasty under it. Looking back on the article now, I find it very much like looking at the quotes supposedly supporting the teachings of the WBS for the first time.

  Both have unfulfilled prophesies. Aids was supposed to get into, and devastate, the heterosexual population in the USA etc. Both Armageddon and AIDS forecasts have been a total cockup and both rely on our short memories to forget these forecasts.

  Both have changed the rules, e.g. AIDS recently included cervical cancer as an AIDS defining disease even though the chances of an HIV+ women dying of cervical cancer is no worse than the general population. This was done so that women can die of AIDS too, to help fulfill their failing prophesies. WBS had to invent the Other Sheep because they had run out of seats on the bus. Same thing.

  For both AIDS and Armageddon the cure is worse than the disease. If you read the manufacturer's blurb on AIDS medication you will find a horror story that explains why many people on these meds die early.

  If you are diagnosed with AIDS or HIV it is your duty unto yourself to do 'due diligence' on the treatments offered. Most of the readers here did not do that when they joined or were brought up in the WBS and would be reluctant to do that for HIV/AIDS for EXACTLY THE SAME REASONS.

  If you do do due diligence on AIDS you may well find that you have been sucked in by bad theology science.

  I have only scratched the suface of the HIV/AIDS saga here. If you want to know more, use Google.

  To those of you that have cared for, and lost, friends, lovers and relatives to AIDS, you have my deepest sympathy, but please don't slay me for the above. I am only the message boy, not the message. The damage done by medical misadventure is far more immediate and life threatening than belief in the Borg and I believe that everyone should be aware that the AIDS message is not without controversy and it's Apostates are not short of evidence.
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  Latest Watchtower.Org Article-AIDS-how will the battle be won?

  by IronGland in

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  Black Sheep

  BTW, I notice that the hit it hard, hit it early protocol mentioned near the end of the article has already been scrapped as it was killing too many customers. The article was from 1998 and is well out of date.

  I can't get the page at the moment, their site appears to be down (permanently I hope)
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  Latest Watchtower.Org Article-AIDS-how will the battle be won?

  by IronGland in

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  Black Sheep

  Sure,

  Sooner or later the public will wake up and see that the AIDS religion is just as shonky and propped up with half troofs as the Borg.

  It's much the same thing, invent an apocalypse and then promise to save us all if you throw enough worship and money at us.

  It's all bollocks, innit.
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  My brother died last night

  by doodle-v in

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  my brother turned 21 on september 24th, a month later the doctor told him that his leukimia had returned and he had a 10% chance of surviving.

  ten days before he died he spent four days at my house.

  he had already made up his mind that he wasnt going to take blood.

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  Black Sheep

  My condolences, Doodle.

  Be thankful at this time that you had a brother. Due to the Borg's influence some of us are lucky to have been born let alone be blessed with siblings to care about.

  My heart goes out to you.
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  Just curious...

  by kj in

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  how many of you were actually brought into the jws by someone at your door?

  how many were born in or brought in by family?.

  kj

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  Black Sheep

  Born in, never baptised.
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  JUST WHEN ARE THE LAST DAYS SUPPOSE TO BE???

  by JT in

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  someone emailed me who lurks and asked if i could repost this thread from my archives-

  she has issues with the bible and how it is always giving folks hope, yet never delivers- she wanted to know why has the last days been going on since- the bible was written-??

  i'm just doing the lady a favor- i told her what i thought of the following repost.

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  Black Sheep

  I'm wondering if 1311 is a typo and should be 1211 when the Mongols, under Ghengis, invaded the Chin Empire.

  I would like to know where that 35 million estimate came from, I haven't found anything to confirm that yet.
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  JUST WHEN ARE THE LAST DAYS SUPPOSE TO BE???

  by JT in

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  someone emailed me who lurks and asked if i could repost this thread from my archives-

  she has issues with the bible and how it is always giving folks hope, yet never delivers- she wanted to know why has the last days been going on since- the bible was written-??

  i'm just doing the lady a favor- i told her what i thought of the following repost.

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  Black Sheep

  The descendents of Genghis Khans Mongol hordes killed c. 35 000 000 of Chinese peasantry from 1311 to 1340

  Genghis Khan died 18 Aug 1227 so I'm not sure how good your source is in this one, JT.
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  This will most likely be my last post. I do hope you read it.

  by azaria in

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  this is in reply to my post jehovahs-witness.com/6/62654/1.ashx (i still believe in god but) my post was read 193 times yet only 11 people responded.

  (i do thank those who did) the post 3,000 already has 9 replies.

  (no im not attacking shamuss post).

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  Black Sheep

  It was another of many threads I have missed.

  I thought the responses were very good, far better than anything I would have had to offer as they come from people with far more experience than myself.

  In fact, I learned a few things from those posts myself, so thanks for starting the thread, Azaria.
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  Antichrist?

  by mouthy in

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  watchtower ,aug 1st 1981 say.

  your attitude toward the wheat like anointed "brothers"of christ will be the determining factor as to whether you go into "everlasting cutting off"or to receive "everlasting life ( math 25:34-36.

  watchtower,july 15th 1991 says.

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  Black Sheep

  They steal it from 2 Cor 1:20

  "We are therefore ambassadors substituting for Christ, as though God were making entreaty through us. As substitutes for Christ we beg: "Become reconciled to God." "